Could Seventh-day Adventist Celebrate Christmas?

Could Seventh-day Adventist Celebrate Christmas?

By Jaymark Molo

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Christians, Seventh-day Adventist in particular, keeps on asking whether they should celebrate Christmas or not. The topic has been subjected into a hotbed debates inside church. Multiple views have risen. Conservative Adventist would love to assert that the idea of celebrating Christmas on December 25th is pagan. Therefore, honest and devoted Christian should not observe it.[1] Some, who are less conservative on this view, would like to maintain the idea that celebrating Christmas has pagan origins, but contends that Christmas “is a good evangelistic opportunity.”[2] Others would argue that the date had no connection to pagan gods or ideas, and therefore it is not syncretistic for a Christian to celebrate this day.[3] Meanwhile, the Church has never taken an official position on this matter so this issue calls to be evaluated carefully in the light of history, Scriptures and Spirit of Prophecy.

1. Christmas and History. It is generally accepted that “Christmas” is a compound word originating in the term “Christ’s Mass”.[4] It is derived from the Middle English Cristemasse, which is from Old English Cristesmæsse. On the other hand, historians were still divided on the origin of Christmas. Some still strongly contend that this practice has some pagan beginnings.[5] Others would like to maintain the idea date had no connection to pagan.[6] The complexity of this study can be elucidated by the lack of available historical evidences. A respected scholar, Angel Manuel Rodriguez expressed well the difficulty of this issue:

 “The history of this Christian feast remains unclear. Historians have indicated that the nativity feast began to be observed by Christians during the fourth century. Some Christians calculated it based on the death of Christ taking place on March 25… But the most common explanation is that Christmas is somehow connected with the Roman cult of the Invincible Sun (Latin, Sol Invictus), the rebirth of the sun, which was celebrated on December 25… It is therefore common to hear it alleged that Christians adopted and adapted a pagan feast. This is possible, but it’s difficult to demonstrate from available historical evidence.”[7]

Since our historical evidences are not sufficient enough[8] to determine objectively the origin of this practice—spirit of dogmatism should be avoided and attitude of realism should be promoted.

2. Christmas and Spirit of Prophecy. A careful reading to the writings of Ellen White will give us a balance approach on Christmas.[9] On her treatment to the said subject, we will notice the major concern of her writings focuses not to the historical origin of Christmas (such as paganism, etc.), nor to the date of Christmas, but to the alarming widespread of materialism.[10] Materialism seeks “to find their own amusement in vanity and pleasure seeking” which “can be detrimental to their [the] spirituality.”[11] This is the issue that she mainly dealt. Thus, it is an unfruitful attempt to look for passages where the prophet condemns the day of celebrating Christmas per se. We cannot simply find one. But it is noteworthy to emphasize that we can find numerous warnings on the perversion of practice, which robs the place of Christ as the “supreme object”[12] of the celebration. Thus, for the inspired prophet, celebrating Christmas is not a problem itself, if and only if, it is Christ centered. He should be lifted as the central motivation, reason and force for celebrating it!

3. Christmas and Scripture. We must admit that there is not any commandment in the Bible that ordains to remember the birth of Jesus Christ in the context of one special day designated by God for any social or religious celebration,[13] but there is no biblical condemnation to the said command either. So, how could a Christian settle this issue biblically? Answer: By looking at the biblical principles to decide theological issues. Looking at the biblical principle, the liberty of observing this practice seems find a support in Romans 14:5.[14] That implies that the conscience of any Christian shouldn’t be tied in any sense of duty to observe in any way December 25th[15] as a day that should be kept to remember the birth of Jesus Christ, because the Bible does not command it.[16] However, one should put in mind that even though we don’t have the duty to observe that date in the Calendar, we have the liberty in Christ to observe it.

[1] Ronald Obidos, “Should Christians Celebrate Christmas?” (

[2] General Conference Ministerial Association, “A Right Way to Celebrate Christmas,” Elder’s Digest, vol. 15 no. 4 (October-December 2009): 18.

[3] Marvin Moore, “Dialogue,” Signs of the Times (December 1996): 14. Interestingly, even though he asserts that Christmas has roots in paganism. He quickly adds: “Does modern celebration of Christmas include worship of pagan gods?” “Of course not, the only thing that comes to the minds of people is the birth of Christ. Remember all the English names of the week also have roots in paganism.”

[4] Cyril Charles Martindale, “Christmas,” The Catholic Encyclopedia Vol. 3.  (New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1908).

[5] Earle E. Cairns, Christianity Through the Centuries: A History of the Christian Church (Grand Rapids: Zondervan,1996) 116, 153. There might be no problem for those who believe that Christmas came from paganism, but the problem will arise if one will use the argument from pagan association. A well-known Adventist scholar, George W. Reid, reveals the inconsistency of this argument: “Many things we have come with pagan connections. The world’s first glass windows were placed in ancient pagan temples, but we still use glass windows with no sense of reverence to anything pagan. Roman bridges, aqueducts, highways, walls, etc., were generally dedicated to and often named after Roman gods. The water system in cities, famous from Roman times, also had pagan connections, but we still have water systems in our houses with no sense of honor to pagan gods.” See, Lori Pettibone Futcher, “Ask the Church,” Adventist Review (March 1, 2010): 35. Consistency calls not just to reject Christmas celebration alone, but all articles that are related to pagan deities.

[6] Andrew Willis, “Is Christmas pagan, Christian or just convenient?” (

[7] Angel Manuel Rodriguez, “Christians and Christmas,” Adventist World (December 2010): 26.

[8] The extrabiblical evidence from the first and second century is lacking: “There is no mention of birth celebrations in the writings of early Christian writers such as Irenaeus (c. 130–200) or Tertullian (c. 160–225). Origen of Alexandria (c. 165–264) goes so far as to mock Roman celebrations of birth anniversaries, dismissing them as “pagan” practices—a strong indication that Jesus’ birth was not marked with similar festivities at that place and time.” See: Origen, Homily on Leviticus, 8. As far as we can tell, Christmas was not celebrated at all at this point.

[9] Ellen G. White, The Adventist Home (Nashville: Southern Publishing Association, 2932), 477-490.

[10] If paganism would become the issue today, then Ellen White would be guilty of endorsing paganism. That would reasonably disqualify her as a prophet. However, there are some (this seems the stand of Ronald Obidos) who are willingly to adapt the radical view of Graeme Bradford to discredit the writings of Ellen G. White. On this manner, we can easily dismiss her writings as fallible at the same time have no problem to accept her as a genuine prophet. See: Graeme Bradford, Prophets are Human (Victoria, Australia: Signs Publishing Company, 2004) 91pp. This view was reasonably critiqued by the following scholars, see: Angel Manuel Rodriguez, “Prophets are Humans: Book Review,” Reflections BRI Newsletter 10 (April 2005): 8-10. See also, William Fagal, “New Testament Era Prophets—Are They Less Reliable?” ( A more balance approach can be found in the works of Juan Carlos Viera, The Voice of the Spirit: How God Has Led His People through the Gift of Prophecy (Mountain View, California: Pacific Press Publishing Assn., 1998). See also, Herbert E. Douglass, Messenger of the Lord: The Prophetic Ministry of Ellen White (Mountain View, California: Pacific Press Publishing Assn, 1998).

[11] Ellen White, Review and HeraId, Dec. 9, 1884.

[12] Ibid.

[13] Even Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights, wasn’t given by God in the Scriptures.  It’s something that they do to recollect deliverance, a special deliverance, that God gave them during what we call the intertestamental period, those 400 years between Malachi and Jesus.  Theirs is a festival that is commonplace now but which does not have its source in a direct command in Scripture; but it does function like many of those other things that are in Scripture. Jesus himself probably observed this non-biblical command (cf. Jn. 10: 22-23).

[14] There are four hermeneutical approaches when questions are not mention in Scriptures: (1) What Scripture does not allow is prohibited; (2) What Scripture does not prohibited is not allowed; (3) Choosing the Two Aforementioned Simultaneously; (4) Biblical Principles to Decide Theological Issues. The author of this article believes the last approach should be favored. See, Ekkehardt Mueller, “Hermeneutical Guidelines for Dealing with Theological Questions,” Reflections BRI Newsletter 40 (October 2012): 1-7. See also: Walter C. Kaiser Jr. and Moises Silva, An Introduction to Biblical Hermeneutics: The Search for Meaning (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1994), 204, 205.

[15] Finally, in about 200 C.E., a Christian teacher in Egypt makes reference to the date Jesus was born. According to Clement of Alexandria, several different days had been proposed by various Christian groups. Surprising as it may seem, Clement doesn’t mention December 25 at all. Clement writes: “There are those who have determined not only the year of our Lord’s birth, but also the day; and they say that it took place in the 28th year of Augustus, and in the 25th day of [the Egyptian month] Pachon [May 20 in our calendar] … And treating of His Passion, with very great accuracy, some say that it took place in the 16th year of Tiberius, on the 25th of Phamenoth [March 21]; and others on the 25th of Pharmuthi [April 21] and others say that on the 19th of Pharmuthi [April 15] the Savior suffered. Further, others say that He was born on the 24th or 25th of Pharmuthi [April 20 or 21].” See: Clement, Stromateis 1.21.145. In addition, Christians in Clement’s native Egypt seem to have known a commemoration of Jesus’ baptism—sometimes understood as the moment of his divine choice, and hence as an alternate “incarnation” story—on the same date (Stromateis 1.21.146). See further on this point Thomas J. Talley, Origins of the Liturgical Year, 2nd ed. (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 1991), pp. 118–120, drawing on Roland H. Bainton, “Basilidian Chronology and New Testament Interpretation,” Journal of Biblical Literature 42 (1923), pp. 81–134; and now especially Gabriele Winkler, “The Appearance of the Light at the Baptism of Jesus and the Origins of the Feast of the Epiphany,” in Maxwell Johnson, ed., Between Memory and Hope: Readings on the Liturgical Year (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 2000), pp. 291–347. I am indebted to Andrew McGowan, on his article entitled, “How December 25 Became Christmas,” (

[16] In the absence of such command—there will be no transgression (cf. Rom. 4:15). So one cannot sin by not observing Christmas; however, one would become a legalist by legislating this non-command into a command.

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8 thoughts on “Could Seventh-day Adventist Celebrate Christmas?

  1. Sean Casajeros says:

    Why shouldn’t we celebrate Christmas?

    1. Of course, first of all, Christ was not born in December 25… Many people know that… The main reasons are: Shepherds cannot be on the field on this winter season, as well as ” there is no logic at all for the administratively skilled Romans to undertake census during the coldest season of the year. Luke informs us that our Master was born in Bethlehem because his parents needed to register for the Roman census. It makes much more sense to conduct such senses when it is most convenient for the people to travel around, and not be hampered by severe weather conditions.” -quoted.

    Anyways, celebrating own’s or other’s birthday is NOWHERE encouraged in the Scripture. As a matter of fact, we should take heed as to what happened at 3 notable birthday celebrations in Bible:
    a. that of Pharaoh when his butler lost his head, (Genesis 40:20),
    b. of the king of Babylon the night it fell (Daniel 5:27)
    c. of Herod when John the baptist was beheaded
    “It appears ‘strange’ to us when we read about the stiff necked attitude of Israel and others in scripture and where it always led. Yet, somehow, we delude ourselves into thinking that we are somehow different now…”

    Add to that the fact that celebrating birthday is a satanic holiday:
    “AFTER one’s own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays are Walpurgisnacht [May 1] and Halloween.” Anton S. LaVey, The Satanic Bible, (New York: HarperCollins Publishers, Inc., 1992), p. 96.

    2. Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible. “While it is true that celebrating the birth of Christ is not condemned in the Bible, but the absence of any recorded instance of such celebration in the New Testament should NOT BE OVERLOOKED OR IGNORED.”
    -quoted, added emphasis
    Early Christians didn’t celebrate Christmas:
    “Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the . . . [ekklesia] … the first evidence of the feast is from Egypt.” (Catholic Encyclopaedia 1911 edition)

    3. Christmas is a PAGAN festival:
    One of your sources [6] said:
    “Some suggest that he was trying to create a pagan alternative to another festival on that day to help unite his empire. That other festival was the celebration of Jesus’ birth. ”
    *This is no truth now, since Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church, Birthdays are not being celebrated by Christians, and biblical people

    That source also said:
    “So it appears that Aurelian, who was hostile to Christianity, picked a date with no pagan sun worship and created one.”
    Yes, but December 25 has pagan origin:
    “The tradition of celebrating December 25 as Christ’s birthday came to the Romans from Persia. Mithra, the Persian god of light and sacred contracts, was born out of a rock on December 25…”(The Christmas Almanac, 1979, p. 17).
    Aurelius probably picked that date because it was the same date MIthra was born.

    One thing we need to know about this festival is that it almost coincides with the Saturnalia festival, a week long festival during December (your source [6] mentioned this):
    Saturn is a god of agriculture, and is a blood thirsty god, requiring child sacrifices… Even the blood spilled during gladiator fights were offered to Saturn, during the December, the Saturnalia festival.

    “The gladiatorial shows were sacred [to Saturn].” (Johann D. Fuss, Roman Antiquities, p. 359)

    “The amphitheatre claims its gladiators for itself, when at the end of December they propitiate with their blood the sickle-bearing Son of Heaven [Saturn].” (Ausonius, Eclog, i. p. 156)

    “The gladiators fought on the Saturnalia, and . . . they did so for the purpose of appeasing and propitiating Saturn.” (Justus Lipsius, tom. ii. Saturnalia Sermonum Libri Duo, Qui De Gladiatoribus, lib. i. cap. 5)

    And you know what is interesting? The image of Saturnalia is very similar to Santa Claus.. Old man with long beard, surrounded with children… Saturn, requires child sacrifices…. He is mostly described by the ancients as a god eating child flesh… (you can do your own research on this to see my point)… If an ancient were alive today, when they see Santa Claus, they would immediately recognize it as Saturn… During Christmas, the god Saturn is being recognized and unknowingly worshipped by those who celebrate it.

    4. Christmas came from Roman Catholic
    “The festivals of Rome are innumerable; but five of the most important may be singled out for elucidation -viz., Christmas-day, Lady-day, Easter, the nativity of St. John, and the Feast of the Assumption. Each and all of these can be proved to be Babylonian.” (The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hyslop, page 91)

    So, “participation in Christmas would be another way of paying homage to the beast of Revelation, something that will be most displeasing to our heavenly Father. His people should never be found endorsing any institution which is pushed and promoted by the anti-Christ.” -quoted.

    Anyways, let me give you this conclusion:

    Scripture teaches:
    “The times of this ignorance . . . [Yahuwah] winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30, KJV)

    To know that Christmas is a pagan holiday, to know that the modern rituals are identical to the ancient pagan rites that honored Saturn, and yet to claim exemption from sin because one knows, is extremely inconsistent.

    Christmas is truly a holiday: a religious festival. By honoring the evil god, Saturn, DIShonor is given to the Creator of Heaven and Earth.

    The Saviour Himself stated a divine principle when He said:
    “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve . . . [Yahuwah] and mammon.” (Matthew 6:24)

    Saturn, more than any other false god, had attributes most similar to Satan himself. Christmas is HIS religious festival. Participation in Christmas celebrations gives honor to this evil, satanic deity.

    • Hi, friend Sean Casajeros!

      Thank you for your lengthy responses to this article. It is a privilege for my article to be critiqued by someone who diligently studies the Scripture. Anyhow, your assessment deserves to receive a brief attention.

      Let me point out those: (1) The author of the article is in full agreement when you argued that “Christ was not born in December 25”; fortunately, neither did he claim that. (2) You cannot use the argument from silence in the Scripture; since you believe the truthfulness of the fourth method (see. footnote no 14), that would be a contradictory in claims. (3) The writer also commends the critic by advancing the possibility of pagan origin to the said celebration; however, one should be reminded that “it’s difficult to demonstrate from available historical evidence.” (see, footnote no. 7 and 8). Again, “spirit of dogmatism should be avoided and attitude of realism should be promoted.” (see, footnote no. 3). (4) The author also does not find difficulty of entertaining the thought that this practice came from pagan, howbeit, arguing from pagan association requires lifetime consistency (see, footnote no. 5 and 10). NOTE: This is also the case to the Roman Catholic association, for one must deny all teachings of the Catholic, including the teachings that are faithful to the Bible [ie., the term Trinity was coined by Tertulian, etc.].

      Since you have admitted that you haven’t read the endnotes of this article (see, his second post), it is his humble suggestion to refer you again to read the article in full and consult the writings of Ellen White to have a balance approach regarding this matter.


      • Sean Casajeros says:

        Hi there, Simul,

        Thanks for replying..
        As of (1), I was just reinforcing the idea of not celebrating the Christmas… Since your conclusion is that everyone has the liberty to celebrate it… But I believe that as people of Yahuwah, we should not be doing the such works of pagans…

        (2) It may seem that I have been using the first method, but I just quoted, that the silence of Christmas in the Bible should not be overlooked, which only means we have to decide how to answer your topic… I had no idea of hermeneutical approach when I first read this article, so that is why I said it… Then I read your footnote (14), which helped me. Since it is never answered directly by the Bible (since there is no prohibitation nor requirement to do it).. I just asserted that this topic needs to be dealt with biblical principles, in which you identified as the “hermeneutical approach”…

        (3) Not because the former Biblical director of the Adventist Research Institute said it, then it is already true… I believe there are historical facts enough to confirm that Christmas is of pagan origin… ( I even remembered an article made by him about rebutting lunar Sabbath in which he said that the “scriptural evidence is lacking” which I see as not true at all..) We just have to search deep.

        (4) The thing here is that Christmas is a holiday… A holiday is a holy day, a religious day… Just like the Sabbath, also a religious day… Celebrating a holiday is also giving honor to the diety that holiday is being given honor to…Most people think they are honoring Christ when they celebrate Christmas, but reviewing history will prove it otherwise… As Yahuwah’s follower, we need to shun away those pagan practices. Paul says to the Galatians, who are returning back to their old pagan religious days:
        “Formerly, when you did not know Yahuwah, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. But now that you know Yahuwah – or rather known by Yahuwah, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wished to be enslaved by them all over AGAIN? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!” -Galatians 4:8-10

        Anyways, personally, I do not believe in Trinity anymore, as it has also its pagan origins… Even our pioneers are not believers of Trinity (they are not Trinitarians, but they are not Arians as well)… George Knight said:

        “Most of the founders of Seventh-day Adventism would not be able to join the church today if they had to subscribed to denomination’s Fundamental beliefs.

        More specifically, most would not be able to agree to belief number 2, which deals with the doctrine of the Trinity. For Joseph Bates the Trinity was unscriptural doctrine, for James White it was that “old Trinitarian absurdity,” and for M.E. Cornell it was a fruit of great apostasy, along with such false doctrines as Sunday-keeping and the immortality of the soul.” -George R. Knight, Ministry, October, 1993, p. 10

        After the passing of Ellen White in 1915, and after the last pioneer John Norton Loughborough died in 1924, the leaders of the SDA began to make steps to convert our denomination to a mainstream church… One of their steps was to include the Roman Catholic doctrine of the Trinity in 1931.

      • Hello brother Sean Casajeros,

        I am glad that we are making a progress here; however, you still need to consider to: (1) read the endnotes of this article to have a full grasp of the arguments in the article; (2) consult the writings of Ellen White to have a balance approach regarding this matter.

        Btw, regarding to your personal rejection to the Trinity, see:


  2. Sean Casajeros says:

    Wow, i just read your appendix, it was interesting!
    The author of this article believes the last approach should be favored:
    “Biblical Principles to Decide Theological Issues.”

    I also believe this… But for me, the biblical principle which should be used should be this… (I just quoted this.): (God changed to Yahuwah).

    1. The pagans were ignorant of Yahuwah, the Creator. They worshipped demon gods because they did not know any better. The same cannot be said of Christians today.
    The Scripture teaches:
    “The times of this ignorance . . . [Yahuwah] winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30, KJV)

    To know that Christmas is a pagan holiday, to know that the modern rituals are identical to the ancient pagan rites that honored Saturn, and yet to claim exemption from sin because one knows, is extremely inconsistent.

    Christmas is truly a holiday: a religious festival. By honoring the evil god, Saturn, DIShonor is given to Yahuwah, the Creator of Heaven and Earth.

    2.The Saviour Himself stated a divine principle when He said:
    “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve . . . [Yahuwah] and mammon.” (Matthew 6:24)

    Saturn, more than any other false god, had attributes most similar to Satan himself. Christmas is his religious festival. Participation in Christmas celebrations gives honor to this evil, satanic deity.

    3. The words of a loving Father to backsliding Israel resound with force for Christians today:
    “Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel, saith . . . [Yahuwah.] . . . for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten . . . [Yahuwah their Covenant Keeper]. Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings.” (Jeremiah 3:20-22)

    4. Participation in pagan traditions dishonors the Creator. Return to your loving Redeemer.
    “For what accord has Christ with Belial [evil]? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of . . . [Yahuwah] with idols? . . . Come out from among them and be separate, says . . . [Yahuwah]. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you.” (2 Corinthians 6:15-17)

    Come out from among them! Do not touch what is unclean!!”

    • Hi brother Sean Casajeros!

      I laud you by upholding the fourth method (see, footnote 14). However, these principles that you have found are not compatible to the writings of Ellen White. Now, “if paganism would become the issue today, then Ellen White would be guilty of endorsing paganism. That would reasonably disqualify her as a prophet.” (see, footnote 10). So theologically speaking, she is either wrong and you are correct, or vice versa.

      I hope I made my point clear.


  3. Sean Casajeros says:

    We should understand Ellen’s White ministry and the role of the Spirit of Prophecy:

    She said:
    “In regard to infallibility, I never claimed it; God alone is infallible. His word is true, and in Him is no variableness, or shadow of turning.” (Letter 10, 1895, cited in Selected Messages, Vol. 1, p. 37.)

    My comment:
    She never claimed infallability, so we turn to the word of God. The verses I gave: Galatians 4:8-10, Acts 17:30, Matthew 6:24, 2 Corinthians 6:15-17, Jeremiah 3:20-22 have “heavier” weight of evidence then the author has given (Romans 14:5)..

    She said:
    “I saw that the Bible was the standard book, which will judge us at the last day.” {Ms 4, 1850; 16 MR 34}.

    My comment
    The Bible will be used to judge us, not her writings… The scriptures are telling us to not remain ignorant, be distinct and peculiar, to shun those ungodly practices (Christmas) and to be set apart – be holy…

    She said:
    “But don’t you quote Sister White. I don’t want you ever to quote Sister White until you get your vantage ground where you know where you are. Quote the Bible. Talk the Bible. It is full of meat, full of fatness. Carry it right out in your life, and you will know more Bible than you know now.” {Spalding and Magan Collection, p. 174}

    My comment:
    We must not let her writings weigh in along with the Bible. If a new light (teaching or doctrine) comes which contradict her statements, then we follow the Bible..

    She said:
    “There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation.” {RH, Dec 20, 1892 –CW 35.2}

    “We have many lessons to learn, and many, many to unlearn. God and heaven alone are infallible. Those who think that they will never have to give up a cherished view, never have occasion to change an opinion, will be disappointed.” {1 Selected Messages, p. 37}.

    “In every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people of that generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it. It is only as the old truths are understood that we can comprehend the new. When Christ desired to open to His disciples the truth of His resurrection, He began ‘at Moses and all the prophets and ‘expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.’ Luke 24:27. But it is the light which shines in the fresh unfolding of truth that glorifies the old. He who rejects or neglects the new does not really possess the old. For him it loses its vital power and becomes but a lifeless form.” {COL 127.4} 1900.

    My comment:
    We should investigate deeply… Just by believing a well-known scholar is not enough… Christmas is pagan… It is a modernized feast of the pagan… Ancient pagans would knew it if they were alive today, that the Christmas is very similar to the feast Saturnalia, a feast which honors Saturn…
    (You may say this about the doctrine Trinity itself, but using the Bible as the standard (not the pioneers), this doctrine destroys the concept of the plan of salvation, meaning, it is unbiblical.. other thing is that Trinity is NOT an unfolding of old truth… anyways, this is off-topic, so i’ll not discuss more of Trinity here in this thread.)

    Di you know that our pioneers were observing 6pm to 6pm (not sunset to sunset) Sabbath for 10 years without being corrected… In the Review & Herald, James White wrote:

    “The question naturally arises, If the visions are given to correct the erring, why did she [Mrs. White] not sooner see the error of the six o’clock time? . . .But . . . the work of God upon this point is in perfect harmony with His manifestations to us on others, and in harmony with the correct position upon spiritual gifts.

    “It does not appear to be the desire of God to teach His people by the gifts of the Spirit on the Bible questions until His servants have diligently searched His Word. . . .

    “The sacred Scriptures are given us as the rule of faith and duty, and we are commanded to search them. If we fail to understand and fully obey the truths in consequence of not searching the Scriptures as we should, or a want of consecration and spiritual discernment, and God in mercy in His own time corrects us by some manifestation of the gifts of His Holy Spirit, instead of murmuring that He did not do it before, let us humbly acknowledge His mercy, and praise Him for His infinite goodness in condescending to correct us at all.

    “Let the gifts have their proper place in the church. God has never set them in the very front, and commanded us to look to them to lead us in the path of truth, and the way to heaven. His Word He has magnified. The Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are man’s lamp to light up his path to the kingdom. Follow that. But if you err from Bible truth, and are in danger of being lost, it may be that God will in the time of His choice correct you, and bring you back to the Bible, and save you.” (James White, Review & Herald, February 25, 1868, emphasis supplied.)

    My comment:
    Just as those other quotes, Scriptures precedes over everything, even Spirit of Prophecy and Ellen White.

    “If the teachings of Spirit of Prophecy require that Ellen White had all truth (when even she herself said more light was to come) it suggests one of two possibilities: either there is something seriously defective in her writings, or, more likely, there is something defective in the believer’s faith.” -quoted

    Blessings to you too..!

    • Greetings bro. Sean Casajeros,

      Neither did the author of this article believes that Ellen White was infallible. Here is a concise statement from W. H. Little John, “Do Seventh-day Adventists regard Sister White as infallible interpreter?”

      He answers: “No. Neither do they believe that Peter or Paul was infallible. They believe that the Holy Spirit which inspired Peter and Paul was infallible. They believe also that Mrs. White has from time to time received revelations from the Spirit of God, and that revelations made to her by the Spirit of God are just as reliable as revelations made by the same Spirit to other persons.” (Review and Herald, December 11, 1883, p. 778.)

      Now, I hope we should discern the difference between believing that Ellen White was fallible (theoretical) and asserting that she made an fallible (actual) mistake (i.e., on Christmas). You seemingly believe in both notions, while I hold only the former. Furthermore, I can both hold Sola Scriptura and the fallibility of her writings without destroying her role as a genuine prophet. This is where we respectfully depart in position.

      The conclusion is still the same, she is either wrong and you are correct, or vice versa.


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