Cryptic Mathematical Hermeneutics of Wilfredo Hepolongca: Form of Historicist?
by Jaymark Molo
A friendly dialogue between Simul Justus Et Peccator and Wilfredo Hepolongca regarding to the validity of his (WH) hermeneutical approach.
Simul Justus Et Peccator: Where did you get that hermeneutical method that you need to put numbers in each corresponding letters, Wilfredo Hepolongca?
Wilfredo Hepolongca: Thanks for your query Simul. Its the medium of prophecy (SYMBOLS & FIGURES from the EAST) that the ‘2nd Witnessing’ used by applying HISTORICISM on Chart. The ‘2nd Witnessing’ UNITES with the ‘first witnessing’ from the spirit of prophecy (DREAMS & VISIONS from the WEST) during the days of the voice of the seventh angel when the MYSTERY OF GOD SHOULD BE FINISHED ( Rev. 10: 7 ). The voice of the SEVENTH angel ( Rev. 10: 7 ) is no other than the voice of the SEVENTH-Day Adventist Church!
Simul Justus Et Peccator: I believe in HISTORICISM; but it seems to me that you are misrepresenting the TRADITIONAL SCHOOL BELIEF (for Historicism does not work with putting numbers in each corresponding letters; i.e., G  O  L  D ). I hope we are following with my question. Now again, “where did you get that hermeneutical method that you need to put NUMBERS IN EACH CORRESPONDING LETTERS, Wilfredo Hepolongca? Could you give me a biblical parallel and Spirit of Prophecy allusion to your hermeneutical method
Wilfredo Hepolongca: As I have said…The SYMBOLS & FIGURES from the EAST that were used is just a medium of prophecy under the ‘2nd witnessing.’ And by applying it on Chart..HISTORICISM comes into view that agree with the spirit of prophecy under the ‘first witnessing’ ( DREAMS & VISIONS by Mrs. White ) from the WEST.
Simul Justus Et Peccator: “2nd witnessing”? Is it possible for me to look the biblical/SOP references to that?
Wilfredo Hepolongca: For EXAMPLE…The DIVIDING LINE between the words JEWS and GENTILES by applying SYMBOLS & FIGURES, we have ‘34’ as the link in between the CODE under the words ‘JEWS’-57 and the CODE under the words ‘GENTILES’-91. We get this ‘34’ as the difference between 91-57=34. What then is meant by this ’34 marking’ and what does it prove in history by applying HISTORICISM?
1.The signal to preach the gospel everywhere that was given by Christ earlier in Mark 1: 15 became effective in 34 AD!( 3 ½ years later after Christ’s death in 31 AD).’It was manifested in history as the fulfillment of the time prophecy in Daniel 9 :24’s ‘seventy ( prophetic) weeks’ that transpired in 34 AD when the gospel is no longer restricted to the Jewish nation, the gospel was then opened to the Gentiles and was preached all over the world!
2. Christ removed the dividing line that existed between the JEWS and the GENTILES by replacing it with the same ‘34’ marking which bear witness of the true gospel message ( 3rd angel’s message to be followed by the 4th angel’s message-Rev. 18: 1) to be preached all over the world benefiting both JEWS and GENTILES established in one body united through the cross at the time of His death ( 3PM ) and burial ( 4PM)!
All supports and evidence from the spirit of prophecy are mentioned in the attachments that I forwarded to you.
Simul Justus Et Peccator: I am not looking for HERMENEUTICAL INTERPRETATIONS, but HERMENEUTICAL GROUNDS. You’ve simply used MATHEMATICAL METHOD, without even presenting that the Biblical writers nor Ellen White uses that. That simply commits the fallacy of begging the question. Again,” where did you get that hermeneutical method that you need to put NUMBERS IN EACH CORRESPONDING LETTERS, Wilfredo Hepolongca? Could you give me a biblical parallel and Spirit of Prophecy allusion to your hermeneutical method?
I hope it is clear to you that I am looking for Biblical references (including in the Spirit of Prophecy) where the prophets used the hermeneutical method that you just used.
Wilfredo Hepolongca: SYMBOL means a SIGN used to represent a quantity or a relation as in MATHEMATICS. Remember that GOD is the greatest Mathematician and this was disclose through the ORACLES of GOD contained in the Bible.
Simul Justus Et Peccator: No doubt that SYMBOLS are SIGNS; but where in the Bible (including SOP) that says symbols are signs that requires each LETTER TO BE TRANSLATED AS NUMBERS?
I have seen your attachment already; but your files simply commits the fallacy of begging the question friend Wilfredo Hepolongca.
FACT: No biblical writers, nor Ellen White employed that MATHEMATICAL HERMENEUTIC METHOD. This is NOT HISTORICIST METHOD, but simply a misrepresentation of it. Unless Wilfredo Hepolongca can show to us some references (even allusions) that the Biblical writers (including Ellen White) have used that method; then it is only wise to entertain his cryptic interpretations. Unfortunately, as of now, his interpretations are found wanting to be validated.
Wilfredo Hepolongca: Isaiah 28: 10-11 Line upon line, precept upon precept, ANOTHER TONGUE will He speak to this people. T his ANOTHER TONGUE being mentioned in Isa. 28: 10-11 does not refer to the HEBREW tongue but the next ENGLISH tongue as a SIGN for prophesying. How come are you telling me that my use of interpretation by using the ENGLISH tongue is not biblical
“In every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people of that generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it. It is only as the old truths are understood that we can comprehend the new. But it is the light which shines in the fresh unfolding of truth that glorifies the old. He who rejects or neglects the new does not really possess the old. For him it loses it’s vital power and becomes but a lifeless form.” (Ellen G. White
Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 127)
Wilfredo Hepolongca: “Truths vast and profound are shadowed forth in its rites and symbols. The gospel is the key that unlocks its mysteries. Through a knowledge of the plan of redemption, its truths are opened to the understanding. Far more than we do, it is our privilege to understand these wonderful themes. We are to comprehend the deep things of God.” (Ellen G. White, COL 133)
Simul Justus Et Peccator: With all due respect, Wilfredo Hepolongca.
Isaiah 28:10-11 says, “line upon line” NOT “numbers upon letters”.
Isaiah 28:10-11 says, “another tongue” NOT “another method of interpretation”.
Christ’s Object Lessons pg 127-128 says, “new truth is not independent of the old” NOT “new truth is not dependent of the old”.
Christ’s Object Lessons pg 127-128 says, “old truths are understood that we can comprehend the new” NOT “”old truths are understood if it is different with the new”.
Christ’s Object Lessons pg 133 says, “the gospel is the key that unlocks its mysteries” NOT “the numbers is the key that unlocks its mysteries”.
Wilfredo Hepolongca: If Mrs. White has been blessed with the ENGLISH tongue in writing down the ‘first witnessing’ from the spirit of prophecy ( DREAMS & VISIONS ) then…are you still DOUBTFUL why the same ENGLISH tongue was used in writing down the ‘2nd witnessing’ ( SYMBOLS & FIGURES )? What lack of faith do you have in considering all these?
Wilfredo Hepolongca: This is the reason why the wisdom of understanding the ‘spirit of prophecy’ was given to the UNLEARNED…considering the fact that many LEARNED men lack the divine wisdom to comprehend things from above!
Simul Justus Et Peccator: Forgive me, but Ellen White used ENGLISH TOUNGE, not CRYPTIC MATH. Let me give my final attempt to make clear things out:
METHOD OF INTERPRETATION: Put numbers in each corresponding letters in each corresponding letters (i.e., The DIVIDING LINE between the words JEWS and GENTILES by applying SYMBOLS & FIGURES, we have ‘34’ as the link in between the CODE under the words ‘JEWS’-57 and the CODE under the words ‘GENTILES’-91).
BASIS FOR METHOD OF INTERPRETATION: Bible: None; Spirit of Prophecy: None
INTERPRETATION: We get this ‘34’ as the difference between 91-57=34.
Your hermeneutical interpretation is pure wishful thinking and until now, that methodology is crying to be vindicated.